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Old soldier valves and seats - 1917 Big Four

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-SG- Juris in Latvia has one of the very few surviving Big Four Nortons supplied to the Imperial Army in Russia in World War 1, and this  machine - nick-named 'Old Soldier'- has been mentioned on the site before. He has recently turned his attention to the cylinder barrel/valves. The barrel has minimal wear and the original piston is also very usable. But here's what he says about the valves ...


"I removed the valves and was surprised to find their stems to be double diameter - 3/8” near the head and 5/16” for about 3/4 of the stem length. Interestingly the worn exhaust valve guide had been sleeved with a bronze sleeve sometime in the '20s or '30s, many years before bronze valve guide sleeves were invented! The valve seats in the head look like they have never been cut, only lapped in with paste. Their width is now around 4 mm. I will put in chrome-moly valve seats as I do not want the hassle of regularly grinding in valves with paste— just have not got the time and of course these will not be conspicuous from outside.



I intend to retain the existing valve guides and to machine them out and hone to 3/8” throughout to accept modern chromed stem valves from Caterpillar and Mack trucks. I have no idea if these valve guides are original or they have been changed at some point in time. I have a feeling that they may be original. The truck valves are very tough and they should last another century."


While the threaded valve guides looked original, the valves did not and Juris also mentioned that they appeared to have been made from larger valves with the slots hand filed.  But … the threaded valve guides were not something I had come across in my limited exposure to earlier Norton design details. So Juris did some more checking and found the guides were in fact threaded the same as an 18mm sparking plug and better still, that they were the same as those on another WW1 Big Four rescued from Russia several years back (via Finland!). I am told that, at this period, Nortons used 5/16 stem valves and press-in valve guides, so perhaps the threaded guides were a nicety provided on the Military Models to aid service in the field.


1915 Norton parts list

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-JdK- Reece sent us the 1915 Norton parts list which can be accessed by following this link.

c1926 Model 18

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-JdK- Kelvin in Australia sent us these pics of his c1926 Model 18 Norton. Not completely original, the guards may be Ariel, the primary is from a later model, not sure what happened to the oil tank but ... he uses his bike. Kelvin informs us "... the tank has split again, the valve gear is worn out again and it it time to do some significant work, still flat tank Nortons are the most fun you can have with your trousers on...". Note the strutted forks.


1927 Flat Tank racer - For sale

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-JdK- Let us be absolutely clear: we like this bike. It looks good, we would like to have it in our shed and trash it on the road. We are quite sure it will be lots of fun. Flat tank OHV Nortons are brilliant.

It is for sale at HD Classics in Belgium and the problem is that it is priced at 57.000 euro. The advertiser suggests that the machine is a 'rare 1927 M25 TT racer' that was owned and raced by an Austrian chap named Rupert Karner.

Rupert Karner was not in the same league as Stanley Woods or Jimmie Guthrie and we had to find him on the internet.  Rupert indeed raced motorcycles but he killed himself riding a D.S.H motorcycle on the 20th of May 1928.

Perhaps Rupert had the habit of crashing motorcycles because the engine of this Norton (number 33388) left the factory in a Model 21, delivered on the 30th of March 1927 to the Demont Freres in Switzerland in a frame numbered 26439. The current frame bears number 30195; we cannot find it in the records but it bears all the hallmarks of a Model 18 frame.

Off course it could be true; Rupert obtained a genuine Model 25 Norton in 1927 (which would have been exceptional; few M25s were sold in 1927 before the CS1 arrived), crashed it almost immediately, replaced the frame with a Model 18 frame, found an almost new 1927 Model 21 engine, rebuilt the lot, put it in the shed and killed himself a few months later on a D.S.H motorcycle, whatever that may be.

This bike was on our website before. It was for sale for a hefty 42.500 euro in 2014 in Germany and now has found it's way to Belgium. As usual, each new owner adds a bit to the story and we would not be surprised if it is advertised next year as Stanley's 1927 TT winner.

As said, we like this Norton but it should perhaps be advertised as a '1927 racer replica built from very nice bits by someone in Germany'.

(We would like to thank Vicky of the VMCC library team for double-checking the frame and engine numbers of this motorcycle)

Best and Lloyd filler caps - for sale

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-SG- Best and Lloyd tank filler caps were fitted by Nortons throughout the twenties and up to about 1934. Four sizes were used, to fit tank necks with nominal internal dias. 1 13/16", 2", 2 1/4" and 2 1/2". Note that these are NOMINAL sizes: for some unfathomable reason, Norton tank neck internal dias. are all slightly larger. The smallest size was used on both fuel and oil tanks, and there was a minor design change in about 1923, when the hinge plate was provided with a protruding tongue opposite the hinge, engaging in a corresponding slot in the tank neck. This became standard on all other sizes. Later in the twenties caps fitted to oil tanks carried the message 'Use Castrol XL Lubricating Oil' - or 'Use Castrol R Lubricating Oil' in the case of those fitted to racing machines such as the CS1 (usually the 2" size).


David in New Zealand (nzsurfer@gmail.com) can now provide all of the Best and Lloyd caps and the photos show those bearing the oily message - as well as the stamped imprint of the Best and Lloyd Matchstick Man trade mark. They also have external knurling like the originals. Seals used are Nitrile for the oil tank caps and Viton (a petrol proof synthetic rubber) for the petrol tank type and the caps are available in polished brass, suitable for nickel or chrome plating, although the largest fuel tank size is in cast aluminium as originally used. Caps fitted with centre stems with the breather tube - again used on machines with sporting pretensions - are also available. Contact David direct for more information.

Phil Irving

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-SG- The late Phil Irving (1903-1992) needs no introduction to the world of motor cycling.  Apart from numerous technical articles published by Motor Cycling under the pen-name 'Slide-rule,' later combined in 'Tuning for Speed' (1948) he  also spent the thirties and forties working as a designer for Velocette and HRD, with a short spell at AMC in 1942. He returned to his native Australia in 1949 although he continued to visit UK regularly for many years after that.


I have just finished reading his lengthy and well-written autobiography (over 500 pages) and if you can find a copy, it's well worth the effort. I was unaware of his sporting activities in the twenties, primarily on AJS machines, prior to coming over to UK in 1930 as a pillion passenger on an HRD outfit belonging to Yorkshireman Jack Gill. Unsurprisingly, in view of his work with other manufacturers, the book contains few mentions of Norton interest. However, worth repeating is a comment by Harold Willis (the Velo rider and designer) in 1930 that NSU - to which company Norton's designer Walter Moore had departed in 1929 - did not in fact stand for 'Norton Spares Used' but 'Not Sufficient Urge!'


Irving's short spell at AMC co-incided with Joe Craig's somewhat longer stint. He apparently got on well with Joe although he says that Joe was useless on the drawing board!  One piece of information Joe provided though, was that during the thirties (exact period unspecified) Norton's racing department had sub-contracted many special parts to BSA, including jig-bored cam boxes and  (I assume telescopic) fork stanchions,  which were made from solid on gun-barrel boring plant.


Reverting to the late twenties, Irving ran a motorcycle business with a friend for a couple of years - selling new and second-hand machines and carrying out repairs.  One of his friends - a chap called Sid Gribble - had a Model 18 Norton which he found rather awkward, being very short in the leg, so fairly far-reaching efforts were made to remedy this in late 1927. To quote Irving ... "We moved the head lug back by a couple of inches, shortening the saddle tube and bending the top tube to suit. The rear forks were also modified and the engine was lowered so much that it only just cleared the ground with no air in the tyres!  The saddle height was reduced to 22 inches and the wheel-base to 52 inches, the job entailing copious brazing with our monster blow-lamp. The finished article was probably the smallest Norton single ever made and while it could accommodate its very short-legged owner, anyone of normal size could not sit on it comfortably. Worse still, it steered abominably unless accelerating hard, which you can't go on doing indefinitely, so the result of our misguided effort was put away in a corner and eventually sold to someone in Mildura who harnessed it to a sidecar."

A shot of the modified bike is attached - it looks to be '25 -ish - and appears to have extra frame bracing tubes as well as a Binks Mousetrap carb. and a diminutive saddle tank.  I wonder if it has survived!

1907 Norton V-twin - For sale

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-JdK- George is selling his 1907 Norton V-twin. Please contact him via email to discuss.

1915 Model Big Four Norton

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-JdK- A 1915 WD Model Big Four Norton attached to a sidecar. According to Mike: "This is the new Big Four for 1915 as it has the new dropped top tube on the frame, and the first year of fitting the early pattern Sturmey Archer gearbox, the cutout in the petrol tank for valve removal and replacement, only used on 1915 models."

1938 Model 40 Nortons

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-JdK- Contributed by Dennis, two Model 40 Nortons at the 1938 Junior TT, Isle of Man. Number 1 is H.B.Waddington who came 12th. J.C.Galway on number 3 retired.

Willing William it ain't! 'tis George!

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Read the whole story by following this link

-SG- Back in May 2015 we posted a photo of what I misguidedly thought was Arthur Bourne's bike, referred to by him as 'Willing William.' Roger has uncovered the fact that, while Bourne certainly had a later 16H with this nick-name, the bike we showed (now above) was another sporting 16H belonging to yet another of the journalists writing for 'The Motorcycle' in the twenties, who used the pen-name Neon. Neon's bike - just to confuse matters - was christened 'George' and started life as a 1922 TT spec. 16H. Read all about it and the numerous mods. fitted to it, in the February 1925 edition, scans available via this link.

c1925 Model 18 Norton

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-JdK- These photos were contributed by Tino in Italy. They (or at least the bottom-one) were taken in July 1925 at the "Circuito del Lario". The Norton is a c1925 Model 18; the rider is Mario Saetti. In the race he finished 2nd in between many riders on Moto Guzzi machines.

1934 Model Big Four Norton

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Charlie in San Francisco has just put this bike back on the road after eighteen years of storage.

Charlie: "I bought it from a Volvo dealer in the US as a very complete basket case in 1989, made it roadworthy in 1990, and ran it quite a lot until late 1998. It is a strong runner now, and it's surprisingly lively for an old SV slogger with a 120mm stroke. All I had to do was replace tires and tubes, freshen up the top end, and replace the mag armature and condenser. A lot of time went into cleaning it up too.

The engine number is 59XXX, frame number is 54XXX. It was first registered 3 September 1934. I have what I think is the second log book. The bike was registered to Dudley Hale Pearson, of Stourbank, Nayland Nr. Colchester. The first stamp is 31 March 1948. The Registration Authority is West Suffolk County Council, Bury St. Edmunds. The final stamp is 5 January 1967.

Any information about this bike and its owner history would be greatly appreciated!"

When is a Norton not a Norton ...

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-JdK- ... when it is a Garreau; it uses a Model 25 engine. Dodi from Italy found another photo and a clipping from 'Moto Revue' that show Garreau was a fan of Norton engines but did not like the frames.


Camshaft wanted - rockers for sale

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-JdK- Richard in the UK looking for a W7 exhaust camshaft for his 1929 Model 18 Norton as it has broken in two. Please let us know if you have one you can spare.


Richard: "I have probably ridden about 500 miles on it since I finished the restoration last year  (it was a compete basket case) so I was surprised that the camshaft broke now. I attach a couple of pics of the bike.


On an unrelated topic, as part of the restoration I was missing one inlet rocker and so I used the rocker from my 1928 Model 18 as a pattern to make AB2 (Ni-Al bronze) castings. I had four made (pic above). I machined one and it's running on the bike but I have three remaining unmachined castings. If anyone wants one I will post at £60 a piece + postage. That is what they cost me. They will need to do their own machining. 


Also above a pic of the 1928 Model 18 from which I borrowed the inlet rocker). I acquired this from a Bonhams Banbury auction a few years ago as boxes of bits. I have used it for two Banbury runs and it goes to the Manx GP every year - goes like stink!"

Please contact us for Richard's contact details if you have a spare camshaft or need a rocker.

1940 Model WD16H Norton

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-JdK- Roberto in the UK and his mini digger came across these remains of this Norton, identified as a 1940 WD16H by the number. The owner of a scrapyard selling used bike parts since the 1950s explained to me once that he always discarded frames; they took up too much space and there was only demand for engines, gearboxes and smaller parts anyway.

Camshaft fixed

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-JdK- Richard informed us a few weeks ago that his Model 18 camshaft had snapped in two; now he informs us the problem has been solved.

Richard: "I’ve made a fix for the existing camshaft as follows:

  • Bore the centre of the existing cam to get rid of the remaining intact portion of the shaft and to provide a centering/locating hole for a new shaft.
  • Make a new shaft (I used EN24T) with a central section that is 0.1”  thickness and is a press fit into the ID of the cam. 
  • Set up the new shaft in the bored camshaft VERY CAREFULLY to ensure the shaft and gear are concentric and then have the shaft and cam laser-welded around the circumference with a fine internal filet weld. I can’t do this myself but have found a local engineering shop that makes an incredibly neat job and will do this quickly and at a fair price.
  • Machine the phosphor-bronze bush in the outer case to get the correct end-float.

I have run a few miles since reassembly and all is OK so far. I’m entered in Banbury and if I make it to the end then I would say this has been successful."

George Cohen

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-SG- Sorry to learn that Dr J C Cohen ('George' to his many friends in the motorcycling world) died at the end of May after a long battle with cancer.  'George' was a flamboyant and in some ways, larger than life character and his well-known interest in single cylinder Nortons goes back a very long way.  He joined the VMCC in 1980 and bought his first flat-tanker in 1986. He became the Club's Norton marque specialist some ten years back, when Wally Flew gave up the post. He also did a short stint as editor of the NOC magazine 'Roadholder' and his major written work was probably 'Flat Tank Norton' which came out in 2006.

His comprehensive rebuild of the so-called 'Fowler 1907 TT machine', for the National Motorcycle Museum, was a major challenge. All credit to him for completing it/getting it up and running - and for personal reasons which do not need discussing here - declining to get involved in discussions as to its originality or other-wise!

I understand that his funeral is scheduled for 12 0'clock on 10th June, at the church next to his home in Chillington, Somerset.

1927 TT Start and Len Stewart

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-SG- 'The Classic Motorcycle' magazine recently published a poster of the start of the 1927 Senior TT.  The photograph concerned has appeared before in this magazine in '84 with an accompanying article by then editor Bob Currie. It is worth drawing attention to the chap who started as number 2 on the grid - see scan. This was Len Stewart, an Australian and leading rider on the grass/dirt in his homeland at the time. He is mounted on a works Norton and how he came to be given a works ride is lost in time but, knowing the rivalry which existed then and now between Australia and New Zealand, it would not surprise me if the fact that New Zealander H H Moller was given a works ride the previous year did not have something to do with it! Be that as it may, Len Stewart's only foray into the TT ended abruptly when he fell off on, I think, the first lap. And if it's any consolation to our Aussie friends, Moller was just as unsuccessful!


However, the question still comes up from time to time: was Len the first person to ride in the TT on an OHC Norton? The TT start photo only shows the drive side of his bike of course - which tells us nothing - but there are those in Australia who think he deserves this minor claim to fame. However, the only photograph of him that I have located - attached, with practise numbers - shows him in the paddock mounted on an OHV cradle framed machine - fore-runner of the ES2 and incidentally without enclosed push-rod return springs. I have checked all the post-race reports I can find and none mentions - hardly surprising - which actual model he was riding, other than that it was a Norton.  So if anyone can shed further light on this conundrum, let's be hearing from you!

Tuning the WD16H Norton

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By Paul Greet in New Zealand

This shows the areas in yellow where the head is relieved
next to the valves. There is an interesting impingement
shown by the exhaust flow witness over the ridge between
 the cylinder and valves. Worth getting rid of, probably.

INTRODUCTION

The humble WD 16H Norton is one of the least pretentious of motorcycles. In standard form, it is slow enough to make riding on the roads awkward. However, it can be upgraded, quickly and simply, at low cost. With the suggested modifications, it will have much better torque, a cruising speed of 60mph and above, and a top speed of 80mph. 70mph can be maintained for long periods without undue drama. The standard appearance is retained, except for the exhaust. The standard cams are also retained.

The modifications take advantage of the fact that Norton knew their way around sidevalve engines very well indeed - no Ricardo patent needed for Norton; they already had the pop-up piston giving the potential for a good breathing/compression ratio balance vital to a sidevalve.

No originality is claimed for any of these modifications: all have been copied from other work and other modified motorcycles. A good source is anything written on the racing Harley Davidson WR45 - these sidevalve engines were heavily developed. Quite a lot of on-line information is available for these engines.

MOTORCYCLE CONDITION

There is no point in attempting any of the modifications described unless the engine, gearbox, forks, brakes and cycleparts are in good order. As the bike will be faster, it needs to be in good condition.

CARBURETTOR

The standard carb is 1 inch. Change this for a 1 1/16 inch as per Model 18, along with the Model 18 inlet stub. This makes the inlet tract parallel, not ideal, but better than expanding from the carb onwards, as standard.

This photo shows the area on the deck, and around the
recessed inlet valve, to be relieved. Also the area of the 
cylinder rounded off.

VALVES

Stainless steel racing valves intended for Chevrolet V8 engines can be bought at reasonable cost from any shop selling aftermarket parts for American V8’s. Standard size for the exhaust, and 1 ¾ inch for the inlet, ⅛ inch bigger than standard.

These valves come in the right size of stem for the existing guides. Collets and lash caps should be purchased with the valves (you may have to buy a set of eight, lifetime supply!) and installed: the tappets will then have enough adjustment to close the gap to the slightly shorter stems on the Chev valves. The standard 16H springs seem fine, but use of NOS items is advisable.

Close-up of area around the 1-¾ inch inlet valve.
Any bigger in valve size and the shrouding would be difficult 
to deal with, without unduly compromising the compression ratio.

PORTS

The larger inlet valve facilitates a good three-angle re-cut of the valve seat, and allows the bowl and tract to be cleaned up - just grind off the obvious flaws, lumps etc - do not try too hard in this area. The exhaust is already too big so don’t bother, except to recut the seat. When re-cutting the inlet seat, recess it a little and relieve the area around it next to the cylinder head. This lets it match up better with the inlet relief in the cylinder deck. The valve is recessed so the top is level with the deck: no special science, just unwillingness to go too far. Hopefully this can be seen in the photos and the drawing.

Another shot of inlet valve and deck relief treatment, 
with hopefully more perspective.

CAMS

The standard cams seem OK, for this extent of modification. No doubt more could be done with modified cams, but this would be serious development, moving away from the keep it simple, low cost philosophy.

CYLINDER HEAD AND DECK

Remove about 2mm or so off the head - on the head in the photos, the head is taken back to the level of the underside of the fin. Ensure the mating faces are flat, and use copper coat aerosol gasket for assembly rather than a gasket to increase compression. A substantial gain in compression ratio is needed, as the next modifications to improve breathing sacrifice some of this.

Check that the valves have clearance to the head at full lift: about 1mm is fine. Grind out the head just over the valves if the clearance is not enough. Grind the head so the combustion chamber is fair and smooth – take out the bare minimum of metal to do this - seek only to remove undue roughness in the casting.

Make sure the combustion chamber does not impinge on the piston at TDC - grind some clearance if so.


Relieve the cylinder head behind the valves – “Tuning for Speed” has a good drawing of this (above). There is a lot of variation between 16H cylinder heads: no two seem alike, so judgement must be used in these modifications.

Now, grind a pathway for the inlet gasses from the inlet valve seat to the cylinder bore. This was 5/64 inch deep at its midpoint on my bike. This modification is hard to explain in words: hopefully the photos are clear enough. Don’t make these so deep that you grind through the casting: however there is a fair bit of meat to work with. The exhaust was given no relief, as it was thought not to offer much advantage.

Round off the top edge of the cylinder wall facing the valves – not so much that you expose the top ring unduly.

With these modifications, some of the gain in compression ratio will be lost. In sidevalve tuning, it is a matter of striking the right balance between compression ratio and breathing, with the object being to get the highest compression pressure when running. The shape of the combustion chamber between the valves and the cylinder has a significant effect on breathing, being in effect a restrictive part of the inlet and exhaust tract. This balance is the reason the famous Harley sidevalve racers of the past ran CR’s well below 7:1. Striking this balance is a matter of trial and error, and doubtless results will vary depending on the artist’s interpretation.

EXHAUST

The standard 16H exhaust is too big. Replacement means fabricating a new pipe, and this does move a little away from the standard appearance. The exhaust on my 16H works well, the pipe size is 1 ½ inch OD. The length is 1500mm from the port to exit of the muffler. The muffler is a straight through item, rather like a Burgess, which can be found in the carpark at any Vincent Owners Club meeting. Failing this, you can buy one cheaply from the aftermarket shop along with the valves.

My exhaust was arrived at by happy accident many years ago. The bike’s exhaust had passed its use-by date, and a friend made me a new one, a quick job to get back on the road. 1500mm is about as long as you can fit on the bike. With no other modifications at this stage, performance improved noticeably.

TUNING

The WD 16H will benefit from a lot more ignition advance than book standard. However, the final figure will vary from machine to machine, depending on how the combustion chamber turned out. The best way of establishing this is to set a lot more advance than one would expect – well over 50 degrees. Then use the advance/retard lever on the road to find out how much advance your particular bike can comfortably use, and set it at that.

Within limits, the bike is not unduly sensitive to ignition timing in terms of performance. There is quite a range over which the engine seems to run well. There might be a temptation to use the minimum of advance that gives good running. However I have found that the maximum advance that gives good running gives a much cooler engine, important in a sidevalve. This only becomes obvious on longer runs. You then have to use the retard if you wish to lug up hills in top, providing more entertainment of course.

The standard jet, 160, albeit in the bigger carb, seems right for New Zealand 95 octane unleaded fuel. Fuel economy is a bit over 50mpg in oldspeak - OK for a sidevalve. Normal tuning procedures for establishing main jet size apply.

GEARING

Installing a Model 18 engine sprocket - 18 teeth from the standard 16, is a must. The bike will pull this gearing with authority, and will be much smoother to ride. Even with the modifications the bike seems to be almost governed to 80mph, at which point it is well under 5000 rpm so safe for the cast iron flywheels.

DURABILITY

My 16H, with the modifications as suggested, undertook a 2000 mile round trip from Auckland through the South Island of NZ and back. A footrest came slightly loose, and at one point I had to drain some garbage from the carburetor bowl. That was it for faults, and the longest day’s ride was over 400 miles. The route was largely over hilly and winding roads. The bike was a pleasure to ride due to its agility and torque.

FURTHER DEVELOPMENT

Compression: Having milled the cylinder head down to the fin, there is still quite a bit of room between the piston and head – approx. 0.180 inch on my bike. This could be reduced to about 40 thou or so over the half of the piston away from the valves by bronze welding and machining. Raising the compression ratio in this fashion would provide a degree of squish to the benefit of combustion. It would also allow some sacrifice of ratio to further relieve the restrictive area between the valves and the cylinder.

Spark Plug Location: The original location appears to have intended to be kind to the sparkplugs of the day. The plug could be moved to approximately the centre of a triangle made by the valves and bore, for improved combustion with reduced advance. Either a new rebate in the tank or a 10mm plug would be needed. This also allows a longer reach plug as the electrodes will not be smacked by the inlet valve. The final position of the plug would have to take into account any revised combustion chamber shape.

Cams: This is an obvious one, but starts to get into expense and some design effort. The limitations on pre-war cam design seem to have been governed by the durability of the coil valve springs of the day. Valve springs have moved on, and if anyone is inclined to use one of the cam design applications, an improvement without loss of desirable low-end torque or reliability should be possible.

Carburettor: You could go bigger than the 1 1/16th inch carb recommended. I mentioned that the modified 16H seems governed to 80mph, the same speed as the Model 18. It is speculated that the governing effect is due to the carb size. Of course, cams and carbs raise the possibility of increased revs, so the cast iron flywheels, happy at under 5000 rpm, are potentially at risk. Steel flywheels would start to look attractive. I have a clip-fitting 1 3/8 TT carb I am tempted to try, restrained from this only by the laughter of friends. One advantage of a bigger carb would be the potential to improve the inlet tract; straight-sided with the 1 1/16th inch carb.

Combustion chamber shape: There is an on-line illustration somewhere of a sidevalve cylinder head by Prof Gordon Blair - this requires a flat top piston and probably a revised head casting - relatively simple in aluminium alloy. This seems to offer an improved combustion chamber shape. The Professor also shows a three-valve version. It is not my business to repeat any of this here, except to recommend a look.

Updraft Carburettor: As used by the famous Norton sprint 16H, in the article on this site. This has been used on an Australian BSA M20, made by cutting and welding, and has obvious gas flow advantages. This moves the appearance so far from standard as to be eccentric, of course.

Longer Inlet Tract: along the same lines as the updraft, but less radical in appearance. If the inlet port could be altered so the carb missed the oil tank, or indeed if the oil tank was modified, a good long inlet tract, like a vintage sidevalve TT Sunbeam, could be tried. A suitable length to match the exhaust, any modified cam, and carb size would have to be established. There is plenty of theory on this for a starting point.

Should anyone try any of the extra modifications, or other ideas, I would be most interested to hear of the results.

1935 MGP - Dr J K Swanston

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-SG- Dr Swanston - who died a year or two back at over 100 years old - told the story of his 1935 MGP win in his contribution to the History of the Manx Grand Prix 1923 - 1998.  Co-author Bill Snelling has kindly given permisssion to reproduce Dr Swanston's article and this is attached (below).

It is interesting to note that, despite all the fuss over amateur status which caused the demise of the Amateur TT and the start of the Manx GP, six years earlier, Dr Swanston relates the substantial help he had from the works during his racing activities - and all for the sum of £10 ... almost a case of 'plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose'.

One of Dr Swanston's earlier bikes - I think his rather special 1931 Senior mount - has survived and has been restored.

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