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1933 Norton Model 19 - A Basket Case

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-By Olav in The Netherlands/Belgium- In the winter of 2015-2016 I restored this pretty rare machine for a friend of mine. The frame (# 498xx, i.e. 1933) he bought a few decades ago containing a Big Four engine. He sold that engine and later found a 1933 model 19 engine (# 551xx, 82x113). He didn't have much else for the bike but gathered bits and pieces to complete it over the years. A NOS pair of (correct type) girders came from someone in the far north of Holland, correct upper fork yoke from a friend in the UK, the beautiful petrol tank was found on a WD16H for sale at a Dutch trader, and he was able to make a deal and exchange it for the correct tank to suit that bike, etc. etc. To sum up: all the bits and pieces came from different sources and places and to me was the challenge to turn it into a complete and authentic looking bike.

The petrol tank had fantastic patina: all the chrome had come off but it was solid and the grey panels and norton logo looked original while the black striping had long ago been restored using red paint, but that gave it a nice individual touch. So there was no doubt that it should remain that way, and the rest of the bike made to suit that authentic appearance.

The oil tank had been painted black but underneath the paint some original chrome plating had been conserved, mostly where the striping had once been. When cleaned up and after application of red striping it matched the petrol tank beautifully.

Two other parts were left mostly in their original paint: the number plate bracket, which on top still had a very nice logo from a dealer, although illegible now, and the primary chaincase. Allthough that needed some repair and a modification (the hole for the footrest didn't match up). I just dabbed the repairs with a brush and some paint.


All the other parts were cleaned to bare metal and repainted. The mudguards were brand new, so they really needed a few tricks to make them look old (like hammering dents, using a blowtorch, 'dusting' fresh paint, etc.). I had an old saddle cover which was servicable again after restitching most parts. I made clamps from spring steel strip for the wiring, etc etc. Lots of work but it makes for nice details on the bike. Everything just had to match up to that petrol tank in style, that was the objective. The only mismatch is the brand new exhaust pipe and silencer: no alternative for that alas, but if someone has some faded originals he might sell: yes please! As the bike is used often, they hopefully will quickly gather some wear and tear.


I completely rebuilt the engine. A new BSA piston was used: fits perfectly and adds a bit to the compression ratio. The engine is highly modified by the way: bigger valves, hairpin springs, and also a positive oil feed to the guides. Someone made a hole just behind the inlet pushrod tube, tapping into the feed to the rear of the cilinder. From there a copper line is going up to the head were it attaches to a splitter with seperate feeds directly into the guides, with the flow adjustable using screws and shims. Very nicely made, I think it must have been done in '50s, probably not much later  because by then replacing coil springs by hairpin would have been a bit backwards?


The guides are made from bronze by the way, technically/theoretically not the right material to use in cast iron heads; heat transfer between these two metals is not optimal. But in practice it may be adequate enough, especially when cooled a bit by a positive oil feed. So I left them in place. Clearance was fine so I didn't expect the valves to seize easily. And it's easy enough to replace them should they wear quickly.

The hairpin springs were chrome-plated and all four of them broke within the first few 100 miles of riding. Maybe because of the plating? Or just from old age? Anyway, I replaced them with new ones, of the same type as used on the cammy Nortons.


After completion I used it for around 600 miles, as was agreed upon with the owner. To assure reliability, for one thing. There's always some kind of technical issue showing up within a few hundred miles (like those hairpin springs), but also to properly run in the engine. This takes, in my experience, at least about 600 miles, and it makes a big difference. At the start, with everything still new, the engine feels rough and stiff, while after several 100's of miles you will really notice it freeing up and getting smoother. Only after running in you can really properly adjust the carburation, and then, by considering fuel and oil consumption and performance you can assess the state of tune of the engine and consider how well the rebuilt went.


My apologies to elaborate a bit on this, but I often wonder why people spend so much money and effort on rebuilding an engine when it will take many years for them to get the bike run-in properly as most people rarely ride their bikes. They would be better off to quickly run-in the engine or even maintain the worn condition of the engine as it will often be much easier to start an much smoother in that condition, providing it is set-up properly.

Anyway, oil consumption was hardly noticable (except for a bit of waste in the first few hundred miles), also helped, I guess, by the second oil scraper ring on the BSA piston. Fuel consumption is around 1 liter per 25 km (71 miles/imp. gallon), which is quite OK for a 'tuned' 600cc thumper. Top speed isn't revolutionary (didn't try, but it speeds up easily to around 110 kmh / 70 mph), but the way is stomps around like a brutal beast is of course impressive. The engine, with it's huge flywheels and long stroke, was made for sidecar use and that's how it feels like: torque galore, not hammering but smooth, realy easy to ride. It has four gears, but ridden solo, two would have sufficed. Acceleration is good, but my '38 ES2 is quicker (as you would expect).

Anyway, I'm quite satisfied about how the bike turned out, and so was my friend to whom I had to hand it over again after enjoying it for a few months. But that's how it goes, on to the next project!

c1924 Model 16H Norton

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-JdK- This photo was contributed by Richard and shows a c1924 Model 16H Norton, personalized for serious racing!

Stanley and Norton Z2351

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-SG- We recently received a couple of further shots of Stanley Woods and (presumably his) Norton Z2351, taken in Dublin at the same time as the previous photograph posted on the site in 2011. Unfortunately it is still impossible to see if the power unit is of the dry sump type so we can't really add anything to the comments made previously about this rather special machine.  None the less, the photos are nice to have and many thanks to the sender.

c1934 Model 40 Norton

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-Richard- This bike (as recently advertised on eBay) looks to be a 1934 racing specification version with some later parts fitted. I do not have the Norton records, but it looks as though it may have been supplied for the 1934 Manx Grand Prix as it appears to have features more often seen on 1935 models. The frame, forks and wheels look correct, as does the engine except the magnesium cambox and the mag chain cover which are both the later type. The gear box should really be Sturmey Archer and the clutch is of this type. The box now fitted looks post-war. This will be a problem because this clutch needs the corresponding engine shock absorber as currently there is not one in the transmission. I think the bike should have a Norton 3 spring clutch for 1934 anyway as only the works bikes retained the S/A clutch that year. The petrol tank looks like a recently made replica and possibly the oil tank as well. Also the fork check springs are the later type replacements and the Andre steering damper should be anchored to the tank. In conclusion I think the bike has been restored in recent years with only the tanks and the shock absorber/clutch in the transmission being the only visible minus points.

Bitza Model 16H Norton

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-JdK- This is my 1938-ish 16H Norton built from parts collected over the years. Rebuilding a few Nortons left me with a pile of rusty and incorrect parts and it seemed to make sense to acquire a frame and an engine and assemble the lot into a complete motorbike. Don't bother contacting me about what is not correct; I know and I don't care.


More interesting, I tuned the engine based on Paul Greet's suggestions. Briefly, the compression was raised by skimming 2-3 mm from the head, a much larger inlet valve was fitted together with a 1 1/8" carb and a longer and wider inlet tube. The 'header tape' on the exhaust hides a narrow (1 1/2") exhaust pipe welded from bits of a car exhaust.


The result is a very enjoyable motorcycle! It usually starts first kick and idles perfectly. Acceleration is now similar to that of an OHV model and it will easily do 100 km/h. It's as much fun to ride as my OHC Norton but at a fraction of the costs and without splashing oil all over the place


I will be riding this machine in Scotland in the coming few weeks, together with a friend on a similarly tuned 16H. We would like to hear from anyone living in west Scotland and willing to lend a hand should they prove to be less reliable than we anticipate!

1927 Model 25 Norton - For sale

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-JdK- Tino in Italy is selling his 1927 Model 25 Norton. The words below come from Tino: "It is not painted. The engine has been fully restored and runs perfectly. The fuel tank is original Norton as are the Lycette saddle and the ML round magneto. It has a newer Norton girder fork but many parts of the Webb HW and the BB carburetor are available. It arrived in Italy on 10.6.1927. Frame and engine numbers are matching and identify the bike as a Model 25. The currently installed Dell'Orto carburettor is not included."

Contact us when you are interested

Norton Push Rod Adjusters

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-JdK- David in NZ just completed these1926 to 1929 Norton Push Rod Adjusters and locking nuts. The adjusters are the correct 9/32" x 26 tpi, are made from 4140, and are nitride hardened. The locking nuts are mild steel and are black oxided. The price for a pair is NZ$53 plus postage.​ Contact David when you are interested at nzsurfer@gmail.com.

Rubbish Norton

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-JdK- Olav and his Norton have featured on this site before and while he's enthusiastic about our favorite brand of motorcycle we don't want to miss this story; in his own words:

"I was going to the UK after visiting my parents in France on a trip that had taken me 1700 km already. Fifteen km before Dieppe disaster struck; suddenly all power was gone, I pulled the clutch and rolled to a standstill. I should not forget to mention that the engine sounded like a bag of stones.


A quick mechanical checkover confirmed what I thought had happened. Have a look at the pic above and decide for yourself (clue; this is the exhaust port and I can't see a valve). Off course I'm not a member of any Recovery Service and I started pushing the bike to the nearest village that turned out to be miles away. I quickly got tired of this, pushed the bike in a ditch, covered it up in hay and made my way home via hitchhiking and trains to Rouen, Paris, Maastricht.  Eleven hours later I crossed my front door.


The next day I took my Toyota Starlet to collect the bike that was now 420 km from home, laying in a ditch. Unfortunately, while the Toyota has a tow-bar, the clutch is worn and slipping and it therefore doesn't pull a trailer.


When I arrived in Longueville sur Scie the bike was till there; I pulled it from the ditch in a burning heat and covered in flies, sweat and oil took the bike to bits and after a lot of pushing and swearing managed to get it into the back of the car. Fortunately the Toyota and it's clutch got me home.

So my advice; do not buy an OHV Norton, it's rubbish!"

(Note from JdK: we do need to mention that Olav does more miles on his Norton in one week than most of us in a decade)


A Norton in Peru in 1931

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-SG- The June edition of 'The Classic Motorcycle' carried an interesting article and photo about three Brits who claimed to have ridden their bikes to the astronomical height of 14763 feet in the Andes in 1931. Two of these intrepid adventurers were Motosacoche mounted but the third, believe it or not, was riding a JE 350 Norton.  The JE, as I think I have mentioned before, was not one of Nortons best sellers and many of the early production bikes did not actually get despatched for a year or two after production started in 1929.  It seemed to me unlikely that many JEs were sold to Peru (not a destination I have ever noticed before in the despatch records) and a quick check shows that - probably -  the JE used for the Andes jaunt was actually one of the early ones (engine number 1310) being shipped out in July 1929 to a company called 'Sociedade Imp. Gen.' in Lima. The records show it  to have been fitted with a tank mounted speedo, dynamo, electric horn and twist grip.

CMC edtor James Robinson has kindly given permission to use the photo of the three riders - fortunate that the JE is in the foreground and, apart from the electric horn, one can see the other 'extras' clearly. What we don't know is who was riding what - the names of the three were R. Lewis, J. D. Galloway and I. B. A Rokes. And what on earth were they doing living, and probably working, in Peru in 1931?

1929/30 cast aluminium Magneto shield

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-SG- I was recently asked if I had one of these by a friend who wanted to make a pattern and cast up one or more for himself.  As it happens, I do have one - picked up at a Banbury Run autojumble many years back.  It is quite a robust casting - see photos  - but there do not seem to be many bikes around still wearing them and I suggest the reason is simply that they will ONLY fit the ML CMAK magneto which was fitted to all diamond framed Nortons  (those supplied without magdynos, that is) during '29 and part of '30.  If for some reason, the magneto had to be changed for another type, then the old cover perhaps got put in the shed and eventually thrown out!  It is secured to the magneto by a single nut which locates on a stud extension of the ML earthing brush holder.  I made up a knurled nut to fit my particular magneto/cover but I do not know if this was how they were secured originally.

A Norton from the Midlands - 1925 Model 18

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-SG- The VMCC's Founder's Day event took place over the weekend and quite the best Norton there was a 1925 Model 18, belonging to my friend Peter, who lives not that far away from Stanford Hall. I asked him for some input about the bike and how he came to have it and his comments are below. He also provided 'then and now' photos and a scan of the final log book for 1939 to 1946. Incidentally, the bike still has its 'first gear in the middle' gear arrangement, which was fitted to many 1925 Model 18s.


Peter's tale:

"Back in 2004/2005 I was working part time in Warwickshire County Council's Rights of Way Dept. when one of our contractors asked me if I'd like to buy his old motorcycle. I wasn't very interested as I already had two or three old bikes but, after a long story, I ended up buying his 1925 Model 18 which was incomplete and in a very sorry state as the attached photos show. It was missing the oil tank and many smaller components and had clearly been 'ridden into the ground.' The crankcase and gearbox casing were cracked from top to bottom and from side to side. Every bearing on the bike was scrap. Previous repairs seem to have been done by the village blacksmith as everything was held together with coach bolts or bent over nails. The petrol tank had been sent away to be repainted at some point and had been put into a paint oven with the result that half the soldered joints had melted so the tank was gaping open at the front. That had happened back in about 1965 and the bike had been sitting in my contractor friend's garage untouched since then. He explained that he had bought it from a chap called Oliver Hanks who had used it many years previously for delivering milk and that although Mr Hanks was deceased, his daughter Mrs Olive Terry was still living in the family farm at Snitterfield, near Stratford on Avon.

From the VMCC I established that the bike was a Model 18 Norton despatched from the factory to Chapmans of Bromsgrove on 24th February 1925 and the first owner was a G W Gillcrist (I later discovered from the Electoral Rolls that he was actually George William McGillcrist, Chapmans presumably having got the surname wrong when they registered the bike with the County Council and sent the owner info. back to Nortons). Mike Worthington Williams helped me get the original registration number back.

Olive Terry and the Model 18 in 1934

I also wrote to Mrs Terry who invited me to call round to her farm for a chat. She remembered the bike very well. Her Father, Oliver Hanks called the bike 'Julie' (no one seemed to know why) and loved the machine. She didn't know when he acquired it but he certainly had it when he got married in 1928 as she showed me a photo, now sadly lost, of her Father and Mother setting off on honeymoon on the very machine. Apparently he used the bike with a sidecar to deliver milk until 1946, see photo of Olive as a small girl sitting on the bike sometime circa 1934. Mrs Terry said that he would put a double adult sidecar body on for weekends and take the family out for runs. When the Norton finally died the death in 1946 he put it in a shed on the farm but couldn't bear to part with it. In 1965, when depressed after the death of his wife, he finally sold it to my contractor friend. As I was leaving Mrs Terry, she suddenly remembered she had found something in a drawer that I might like to have, the logbook from 1939 to 1946!


It's taken me over ten years of stop/start restoration to get it back on the road. I've experienced some dispiriting setbacks and have had to rectify many mistakes made by myself and others (like shattering a flywheel when forcing a 1.020 inch crankpin into a 1.00 hole!). I'm not sure if, knowing what I know now, I would undertake the exercise again but it is a wonderful machine to ride. I'd optimistically entered it in the Banbury Run each year of the last four years but it was never ready. I finally got it on the road last Summer for the VMCC Coventry Parade and, nicely run in, completed this year's Banbury Run without problems, even riding it there and back to Gaydon. It absolutely soared up Sunrising Hill.

Olive Terry and the
Model 18 in 2016

Earlier this year I took the Norton back to Mrs Terry to show her what I'd done with her Dad's bike. She was delighted and told me more about it's history as a milk float. That was when she gave me the photo of herself on the bike. I took one of her standing by the bike, see attached, now aged 86. Behind her in the photo, to the left, is the same apple tree as it the 1930's photo, and in the background the shed where the the Norton languished from 1946 to 1965."

Norton mudguards

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1930 Model 18 Norton guards

-SG- Most restorers of Vintage bikes will agree that inappropriate choice of mudguards can spoil the whole effect. I am pleased to say that, as far as Vintage and pre-war Nortons go, a new company in Western Australia - appropriately called 'Vintage Steel' - has put in a lot of effort and expense to produce guards of the correct radius, width and profile for flat-tankers and later models. Visitors to the recent Banbury Run in UK may have seen some examples and I certainly have had favourable comments from those who saw - and in some cases bought - them. The article attached (this link) gives much more information about the enterprise, plus contact details etc. Their website is worth a look too. Guards are made for lots of other bikes from 1900 to the 1960s and sometimes later, if the rollers in stock are suitable. Note that although Andrew is shown in the article with a  Vintage American X vee-twin, he also has a few Nortons including a 1910 Belt-driver which has been featured on this web site before!

Simon's Norton ...

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-SG- I was recently attempting to tidy my disordered files when I came across this photo of FDF869 which has all the appearance of a 1939 ES2. It is and it isn't! The registration number kings will identify FDF869 as dating from 1946. And when I bought it in 1959, complete with child/adult sidecar on the side, that's what it said in the log book. I think it cost me £40.  I used it as regular transport for a year when foolishness and disaster struck!

I took off the sidecar body as I had arranged with a friend to fit a channel to the chassis on which to mount my Vintage Model 18, to go to race meetings.  I set off: without the sidecar body the bike was very lively on left handers and rounding one quite close to home at my usual speed, the wheel came up and - an automatic reaction I suppose -  I straightened up a bit to get the chair wheel down, which of course took me onto the wrong side of the road. And who should be coming the other way at that precise moment but a nice 'ex-pat.' Pole driving an A35 Austin van. I went straight into him, landing on the bonnet and when I opened my eyes a couple of seconds later, I saw him looking out at me in considerable astonishment through what was left of the windscreen! The boring aftermath of visits to hospital etc. do not need repeating but in due course I got the outfit back home. The forks were entirely knackered as were the front wheel, mudguard and the front of the sidecar chassis. There did not seem to be any other damage, apart from the big dent in the tank visible in the photo. but I felt uneasy about the frame and resolved to change it for another if I could.

As it happened, my old friend Frank Pearce had a bare frame from a 1939 ES2 with no documents which I had for a couple of Pounds, while a new set of ex-WD forks from Russell Motors (still going) in Battersea cost me a tenner.  Frank came up with a front wheel and mudguard suitable for the WD forks (brake on the left, whereas mine had been on the right). I literally swopped everything over into the 1939 frame and thus it became more 1939 than  '46. As far as I recall - and as it's now 57 years ago, my memory is a bit hazy -  the 1939 ES2 frame differed from the 1946 Model 18 version in the provision of pillion footrest lugs on the rear frame tubes. I think one had them and one didn't, but not sure which.

I sold it in 1984 for not very much money and the new owner provided the photo not long before he and a friend departed on a somewhat disastrous trip, I think to Greece.  Wish I'd kept it!

A DOHC Norton from 1937 ...

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-SG- Several months ago David Crawford (author of the Stanley Woods biography) sent various photos of a restored 1937 racing spec. Model 30 belonging to Harry Turner, a late friend in Northern Ireland. These were taken, I believe, nearly thirty-five years back and show the very presentable machine, which is unusual in that it has DOHC valve operation. Richard's view is that the cambox was probably a post war fitment but it is difficult to be sure as the bike disappeared after the owner's death in 1988 or '89, and has not been seen since.

Where is it now?  Any news or ideas welcome!

Classic Motorcycle Mecca Invercargill

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-SG- In December 2015 we had a posting about the Motorcycle Museum in Nelson, New Zealand - containing sundry Nortons (listed below). Due to the owner's ill health, this closed last year but the entire collection has been moved to Invercargill, in the extreme south of NZ. It has re-opened as Classic Motorcycle Mecca, located in Tay Street. The web site is www.transportworld.co.nz. Next door is the Bill Richardson Transport Museum. Invercargill is also home to Burt Munro's Indian special and Velo sprinter - in the Hayes Ironmonger  store - while the Museum also has Munro exhibits and a good FACTUAL film about him and his achievements!

  • 1925 Model 16H & Sidecar
  • 1940 Model 16H
  • 1934 Model 18
  • 1951 Dominator 7
  • 1938 Model 19
  • 1928 CS1
  • 1938 International Model 30
  • 1937 CS1
  • 1929 Model 19
  • 1951 500T
  • 1952 Manx 500cc
  • 1947 Manx 350
  • 1961 Manx Replica
  • 1962 Manx
  • 1949/51 Manx 350

The Bigger Picture ...

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Arthur Horton and passenger Donington 1938

-SG- The recent posting about pre-war sidecar racing (this article by Bob Zwart) prompted Ken McIntosh in NZ to send me on a copy of one of several lists compiled by Peter Roydhouse containing data from the 'despatch books.' This one lists the 588 and 596 cc OHC models produced from the end of 1929 up to and including 1939.  If asked the question 'how many do you think there were?,' the average Norton nut would probably answer 'don't know: not that many!' I included myself in that bracket and it came as a real surprise to learn there were 69 in Peter's list, including four 588 CS1s early on. Of the remainder, a very few were 596cc versions of the CS1 but all the rest were Model 30s. 38 of them were exported, 19 to Switzerland, 7 to Germany and small numbers to Belgium, Austria, Australia, Sweden, Argentina and - of all places - Java. The rest were of course sold in UK.  Over 20 were to racing specification! As the saying goes, you live and learn!

Howards new bike - 1926 Model 18 Norton

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-SG- Howard has recently acquired a 1926 Model 18 Norton and from the photos he has sent, it is in very nice  shape. I have checked it out in the records and it was supplied early in 1926 with matching frame and engine numbers. While I appreciate the problems associated today with the use and supply of beaded edged tyres, I am pleased to see this bike still wears its original tyre type and in my probably biassed view this greatly enhances the overall appearance of the flat tank Norton. It retains the 'lean and hungry' look!  It is unusual in that it has an LS gearbox fitted and while this may have been a later modification (the records in early '26 do not show gearbox type or number), the serial number of the gearbox shows it to be of about the same age as the rest of the bike. He has been fortunate in obtaining some early photos of the machine - below: dating from about 1946 - by which time it looked pretty well used and still carried its obligatory war-time head lamp black-out mask. I note it already had the LS gearbox fitted, incidentally. It was apparently on the road until 1946 when the then owner bought himself a new bike - a Norton, of course.


Just another CS1?

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-SG- The other day I came across a 1979 copy of Motorcycle Sport containing a BMS advert for some of his then new publications. He used a photograph of the late John Griffith's 1928 CS1  accompanied of course by some appropriate text, to promote his new book 'Cammy Nortons.' Certainly it's a tidy example though fitted with a 7 inch front brake instead of the usual 8 inch Enfield type (of which more later).

I have it on good authority that this machine previously belonged to the late Arthur Horn and it was raced to good effect in Vintage events in the early sixties, ridden by John Hurlstone. It was featured in Griffith's Motor Cycling article 'Built for Speed Number 45.' He mentions that Stan Johnson had built up the engine and gearbox for Arthur which was probably the reason it performed so well -  and on petrol at that. A couple of scans show it in action and also, with tank removed, wearing a twin float Binks carburettor.

I was on good terms with Stan and he told me that Arthur had complained the bike vibrated like crazy and did not go as fast as he expected. Hence asking Stan to 'sort it'. Stan found the cause of the problem quite quickly - the crankcase mouth sloped from one side to the other by 0.010"! Makes one wonder how that got through Quality Control!  Anyway, an after hours session in the tool room at Stan's place of work (Hoovers, Perivale) soon had it corrected and the results of his labours resulted in a return to the performance it should have had.

And that front brake? When JPG bought it from Arthur, John wanted to know where the 8 inch front brake was and also the twin float Binks, only to be told by Stan that they belonged to him personally and not Arthur, so he had naturally kept them ... Where this CS1 is now, I have no idea!

1929 CS1 booklet

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-SG- Ian has sent another splendid batch of sales literature taking us through to 1934. These will be scanned and posted in due course but in the mean time, many thanks! To start the ball rolling here are copies of a very small and humorous open-out booklet produced by E T Fisher and Co of Melbourne in 1929 covering the CS1 (click this link). I have had to enlarge each section for scanning purposes but overall size initially is only 61 x 45 mm.

c1926 Model 18 Norton

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-JdK- This Norton was recently found in the UK. Simon: "It's a bit of a conglomeration of vintage parts but with a bit of a tidy up, it could be very usable. The engine number 297XX originally belonged to a Model 18 with frame 230XX which was despatched in April '26 to a dealer called Tom Davies. He sold it  later in the month to a chap called Barlow, whose address is illegible. I have not spent hours looking for the frame number 123XX (they are not in numerical order in the records) but am pretty sure it dates from early '25.

There are a few surviving flat tank Nortons with a saddle tank like this one. Such tanks seem not to have been supplied by the factory but as an aftermarket accessory by some enterprising company. As regards the rest of the bike, in no order of importance, it has been fitted with wired on 19 inch tyres, the oil pump is Pilgrim instead of Best and Lloyd and the rear brake pedal and rear engine plates are '29/'30. The spacers to carry the footrests are missing as are the footrests. The rear brake is also '29/30, hence the Heath Robinson arrangement to provide an anchorage for it. The primary chain case is not Norton - I think it's BSA but am far from sure. The carb looks like a 1929 Amal and the magneto almost veteran; not sure what it is. The magneto platform/front engine plates are also '29/30 and the front wheel (Horton) could be '28 to'30."
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